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I had several discussions with Roger, Adrian and Henry about bronze hooks rusting on some of my lures.

A few years ago Mark Mac asked me about this.  I have to admit that I blew it off as Mark tends to order 100 lures at a time and I figured the rusty ones were in his boat for months.  Sorry Mark.

Anyway, I contacted my hook supplier and talked with him.  What he told me made sense in a way but I am still somewhat skeptical......

Problem is that the Eagle Claw hooks I use have experienced rust after very few uses.

I use these on every lure I make except for lures with treble hooks.  On the treble hooks, I use the VMC bronze hooks.  Prune Picker used these for years without problem.

To my knowledge, Ron never mentioned a rust issue...at least not to me and he was my mentor on the lure making.

Anyway, the Eagle Claw rep told me that due to the salinity of Texoma I should be using the Eagle Claw hooks with the SeaGuard coating on them.  That is their saltwater hook.

I already use some of these on the larger lead heads because the bronze hooks are only available up to 4/0.  Sometimes I can find them in 5/0 but not often.

So, I'm going to start using the SeaGuard hooks (after my current bronze stock runs out) and see what happens.

I personally have not experienced any rust on the lures I use.  Maybe it's because when I get back from a trip, I hose my rods/reels (with the lure still on the line) down with fresh water just like I do when I go to the coast.

Texoma is a little salty.

The other thing I do when I get back is to open every hatch on my boat so that any moisture in there can dry out.  I carry small tackle boxes (3) in my boat's console tackle storage.  These are also opened up to dry.

All this is good, but like I say, I've never had an issue with the VMC bronze trebles.

I've been asked to use stainless steel but the cost is not practical.

I've been asked to use red hooks.  Again, the cost is not practical.  The red comes off after a few fish but I do not know of anyone who has experienced rust after the loss of the red coating.

I'd be interested to know if anyone experiences rust on their bronze hooks when they are used at Texoma.  No problem with bronze in pure fresh water.

The Eagle Claw guys were pretty shrewd in their marketing as practically all Do-It molds are designed for Eagle Claw hooks.  I tried another brand but the shank of the hook is larger than the Eagle Claw and the lead will not flow around it to properly fill.

Anyway, FYI.  And no, Paokie, I do not do product recalls / replacements........[rofl]

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The red hooks rust after the red coating/paint comes off.
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The Bronze have rusted on me as well, but I just keep on using them and they work.
Would've never dreamed of using an old rusty hook Bass Fishing but doesn't bother me on Stripers.

I ran across some Gamakatsu Bait Hooks on Close Out, bought both in Black Nickel & Red finishes, neither rust.
The Red wears off pretty quick but it's a Gold Aberdeen finish underneath, the black ones don't rust or rub off.

I suspect this engineering change will require extensive on-the-water testing....countless more R & D Trips ??? [smile]

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Dennis:  "I suspect this engineering change will require extensive on-the-water testing....countless more R & D Trips ??? [smile]"

Yes..........it ain't being a lure guy always trying to upgrade and make things better for his customers.........but boy I sure do miss the aerospace mark up.

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Dennis:  "I suspect this engineering change will require extensive on-the-water testing....countless more R & D Trips ??? [smile]"

Yes..........it ain't being a lure guy always trying to upgrade and make things better for his customers.........but boy I sure do miss the aerospace mark up.
Get a gubmint contrtact.
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Dennis:  "I suspect this engineering change will require extensive on-the-water testing....countless more R & D Trips ??? [smile]"

Yes..........it ain't being a lure guy always trying to upgrade and make things better for his customers.........but boy I sure do miss the aerospace mark up.


Ax, you know my views on what hooks to use

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Paokie, I do know your views and I agree with ya.  However, there ain't a lot of markup in lure making and if I use the hooks you recommend, no one would be willing to pay that price.

Plus, you are a professional guide and that's how you make your living.........so you can afford to use the 'cadillac' hooks and write them off. [crazy]

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Switching over to Eagle Claw SeaGuard hooks.

As the inventory goes down, I'll be using SeaGuard hooks on all my lead head lures..

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