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My wife has stated if we had a "decent boat", we would go to the lake more.  In her mind "decent boat" means a barge, big and stable with lots of room for the kids & grandkids and easy to get off/on at the beach.  So that equates to a pontoon boat with a ramp installed underneath between to 'toons.  I've managed to find a few used ones online that fit my budget of less than $15k.  What I am wondering about is how well do they take the rough water?  Will I have to throttle back to 10-15 mph when the wind is 10-20 and the Texoma rollers start building?  

Would a 24 footer make things smoother?  Can a 90 four stroke push a 24' boat to 25 or 30 mph, or must I get a 120/150?

I've seen some center console models that look interesting.  I like the looks of the boats with 4 "fishing chairs" near the four corners versus having large couches going around the entire perimeter of the boat.  Anyone having any experience of center console versus normal right side console, I'd be interested in your thoughts.  

Thanks to anyone with some advice on this topic.
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I just bought A 22 FT voyager tritoon center console with a honda 150.fishing model.145 total hours on motor. .it will go over 30 mph loaded and cruise real nice at 25 mph.it will take plenty of rough water..smoothly. .has tons of room and will take lots of people..I paid $17,500.for it..I now have three tritoon all with Honda motors...I have a 23ft with a 115 and it will cruise about 22 mph nicely. .my other 22ft is one I re-made completely last winter..it is a center console..w a 135..it will cruise 25 easily. The 23 ft is side console it works ok..I took two bench seats out.of the front end ,one on each side,I like the center consoles better..I have 2 center console boats for sale...a.20 ft Falcon and a 18.75 cajun..
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I have owned two of the type boats you are thinking about. The first was a 22' G3 F/C pontoon with a 90hp 4-stroke Yamaha. Max speed was about 18mph. Traded up to a 22' G3 F/C Tritoon with a 150hp 4-stroke Yamaha. Max speed about 28mph. Deck was EXACTLY the same on both boats. That is where the comparison ends. The Tritoon rides so much better, handles the big pond so much better and is so much more stable. It is perfect for tubing the Grand kids. It is also perfect for downriging, or as Ax would say, controlled drifting.
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Went thru same thing with Queen Bee. Did quite a bit of research, even made a trip to Lake of the Ozarks to try out tri-toon. If they will take that lake, Texoma would be a cake walk. Ended up with Hariss Flote Boat W/150 Merc four stroke! I " really " liked the Voyager CC ( made at LoO btw.) Tri-toon is only way to go.
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Thanks everyone for the info.  
I had been hearing the tritoons were quite a bit better.  My problem with them if figuring out an easy way for Princess to get in and out when she goes to the beach.  Her replacement knee still does not have the strength to climb a ladder.  I think I may just go for a pontoon for now with hopes of upgrading in the future.  We've got some friends that have a tritoon. Maybe when she compares the two she will get some incentive to do figure out another way to get aboard.  

Oh another question, is it worth the bother to put them on hydrohoists?  
Thirty years ago we did not have hoists and we kept the float boats on the water year 'round.  Seems like we'd scrub the bottoms at the beach and that was about it.  Maybe once a year hit them with a powerwasher.
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I have a 22' Bennington tritoon w/ 115 Yamaha I wouldn't want a smaller engine. What everyone is saying about the ride is tru I rented a pontoon before purchase and the toon rides better and taller in the water. Attached is a mod I made to help my son in his wheel chair on and off. Just a days  work with angle iron and plywood. He likes it 18 year old offensive lineman. Holler back if you have any questions.

The company listed in the PDF file Handi-Ramp make all kinds of stuff even custom. I hope that helps

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Theres a 22ft tri toon voyager in ohio for 13k with a 90hp honda on boattrader...will be more soon..90hp would get good fuel economy...wont be quite as fast but within your budget. .
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Okiekid, how to you find that one?  Halfway thinking I can hang a removable ramp on the side somewhere if the tritoon is the best boat.  Thanks for searching for me.
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My tritoons.all all plenty of gates to use for that..I will find the link for that boat..
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drob,,,,Look on boatrader 22ft tritoon Russell Point Oh...less than 13k,,, but no trailer. .not a center console but has some nice big chairs,,,I will keep looking for a boat for u,,,check it out though...
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Also check with Hwy 51 marina on Eufaula (OK), they are the Voyager dealer.
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drob...Sent u a personal message. .found a 2007 tritoon 23ft w 140 suzuki 4 stroke and trailer for $12,500 in okla..
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drob.....a fold down ramp,, or removable ramp will be easy to set up and use in a tri toon,,,, also the boat I found has lots of bench type seats,, all u have to do is take a screwdiver and remove whatever u want...if u change your mind they can go right back on,, the boat will work good for you size and power is just right,,, u can always get your money back on this one..,, heck if I didnt have 3 already I would buy it........my phone number is 580.256.4357,, call me,,, I know quite alot obout this stuff,,
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Oklakid98, good find.  I am gonna check it out tomorrow with the wife.  [smile] Does not have any fishin' stuff on it so I'm gonna need your help to convert her.  
If I was buyin a big sailboat I'd crawl all over and under her with a good light looking for cracks, blisters, mold, rotten wood, check out the canvas, fire up the engine etc.  I reckon this may be a little different.  Anything in particular I should look for on the pontoons?  
It does not have a fish finder or bait/livewells.  
Am wondering what the best way to go is on fish finders and livewells.
Shoot, I was just at the big Bass Pro sale this morning. They had a x4 finder reg 300 for 150.  Don't know if there is any better for that money...
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drob,,, the boat has a number 5 on it in one of the pics,, was probably a rental boat....it will probly be beat up some,,, check it out good....a new one costs 3 times as much,,look for broken welds etc,,, the owner should put muffs on it and start it..ask about the service history of the motor..u might even buy it for less...winter is coming,,, like I said before,,, u can take the two forward bench seats out with a screwdriver and make lots of room for a wheelchair,,,, we use old office chairs...sunshine makes the best bait tanks...I can advise u on fishfinders if u like..u are under budget on the boat...I would get some good electronics with the savings. .I have 2 tritoons rigged up and another one in my shop ready to start on..23ft will be great,, and the
Boat is a landua...very good....and u wont have to worry about scratching it,,,,, call me if u want...

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Kid is spot on. All you need is big ice chest, bait tank, rod holders, lots of tackle boxes for reaxtion jigs & lures and quality depth finder. You'll be good to go.
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Well, I went and checked it out this afternoon.  It was a little rough.  Looked like it may have been a rental boat in a previous life.  The seller has had it about a year, and they just did not use it much.  There is some scapes on the outside panels here and there.  The cushions are not in too good of shape, some have been replaced and some are just dirty.  The deck does have a lot of room.  There is 48" between the driving station and the lounge chair/sofa in front of it, plenty of room for a bait tank and an ice chest etc.  There is about 22" between the front wall and the front edge/bow of the deck, which gives me enough room to cast a net, anchor, or set a couple of stand up stool like chairs. Not much room off the back deck except for at the corner ladder area.  Maybe could remove the little changing room module in front of the engine to get a little more room.  No water pumps, fish finder, etc...  He did briefing start the engine (? impeller [eek]) for a few seconds.  The engine case had a lot of rub wear on it for some reason.  Prop was a flat black, almost like it was newly painted.  The pontoons had plugs in the stern ends, I guess that is a decent feature?
Seemed like the last 20" or so of the bow and stern decks slanted downward just a tad.  I know the front did.  The spray shield did not cover the very front section underneath.  It looked like it had been cut/torn loose. The rub rail looked okay. Could be missing the front section trim, but it still looked okay.  Interesting gaps between the deck and the transom box as if the deck may be deteriorating a little at the very stern end.  The hulls were fairly smooth, no big gouges.  The leading edges had a sizable thickness of extra material that seemed a bit rough but it appeared to be designed to take it.
Overall seemed like a lot of little but curious stuff.  My guess is most all of this is cosmetic and decking can be replaced fairly easily if one is not afraid of work. 
Will call Oklakid tomorrow and discuss.  Thanks all.
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drob,
My experience is that you are probably buying someone elses's problem. I have not seen the boat, but 'buyer beware'. Things that are too good to be true usually are. That being said, bargains do exist. Just be careful.
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I got the same feeling of buying someone's previous problem, when I bought my CC if it had not been for so many others that knew the boat so well and had been in it I would have been cautious due to the age, (no problems) it was almost too clean for the age.

I do know where there is a pontoon close to me for sale that looks like new with a Merc50? on it, 1 owner, loaded, cover, sonar, t motor, all safety equip, anchor etc. About $10000 with new tires and trailer if interested PM me. I believe he still has it, health reason force selling. It may be still under warranty.  It looks about new.

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Got my 23' Landau Tritoon back from Tadpole's Marine a few weeks ago.  They practically rebuilt the whole back end (very stiff now), added a second battery and switch, fish finder, repaired the bimini frame, tuned up the Suzuki 140, etc, etc..   All the work looked great and functioned very well.  Took the boat out on Monday 16 Feb and went from Newberry to Washita Point and back.  Waves got pretty big with the North wind that day.  The boat did fine.  Able to do a steady 15-20 at an easy cruise and stayed dry and smooth.  Nice ride.  The only problem was the lack of fish found.  Can't blame that on Tadpole's though.  Absolutely cannot wait until old man winter subsides and I can get back on the water.  Be safe.  Drob.
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