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Considering Lake Texoma striper fishing, what is your favorite rod/ reel and line size setup for each of the following (the setup you use most of the time)? Sorry, I know this has been discussed numerous times but haven't seen it in awhile. Thanks in advance!

- Slabbing
- Top water lure
- Downline live bait
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This is like asking which tire do you like,a lot of different answers. So I'll add my 2 cents from what I've learned from the actual Geezers.
Ron Ludwig (PP Slab) used and converted all of us to Bass Pro Bionic Blade 6 1/2 ft med.,Garcia 5500 C3 spooled with Trilene clear 12-14 lb. Same outfit he used for Top Water. 
We still use the reel's because of the line guide. Figure how many ft 1 time across = then no need for pulling line. Say mark fish at 40',each time the bar goes across is 6',then 6 1/2  times will put you in the fish. Still use Bionic Blades because of sensitivity.  This is same rig we use for Dead Sticking.
Top water is random reels from Revo's to Shimano's spooled again trilene clear 12 &14. 7' Med fast tip rod's. 
Remember when slabbing and dead sticking sensitivity is your best Allie. 
Just a side note. Before I moved up here from Plano I was working PT at Academy. Had only met Ron and none of the other Geezer's. Ron call me one morning from their morning coffee and had me buy all the C3's I could. Cleaned out both Academy's in Plano.[smile]


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Thanks for the history lesson and equipment guide all in one! I enjoyed it and will consider that next time I want any new equipment.

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Fishstick......George Pratt and I had lunch today and we were talking about that......

He and I do not use the same set ups and we have fished together several times and I haven't seen that it makes a difference.......

George uses a MH set up.  I use either a M or ML.  My PB is 16.5 pounds caught on a 7 foot, M, Bionic Blade rod with a Abu 5500.

I use M rods for live bait fishing.  All my live bait rods are Ugly Stick Striper Rods, 7 foot.  I use Abu line counter reels on every live bait rod.  This is really helpful with kids and adults who can't count.  [cool]

I also use these for trolling as I know how much line I have out.

I have 36 rods and they (except for the 6 live bait rods) are a hodge podge......

My favorite casting set up is a G Loomis rod with a Calcutta 200B reel on it.

My favorite spinning set up is a G Loomis Green Water rod with a Mitchell 308C reel,

In summer time, I use 15 pound test, as cheap a line as I can buy.  I use 15 pound main line with 12 pound leader on the live bait rods.

In winter time, I switch to 12 pound test, in as cheap a line as I can buy.

Only thing that has definitely been proven to me is that clear line is the best.....side by side testing, hands down, clear line catches more fish.

I do have one reel with braid on it with a flurocarbon leader.  Don't like the braid and it's coming off soon.

I think you'll find that the more you fish, the more confidence you'll gain in different set ups.  Ask 1000 fisherman and you'll get 1000 different answers.

That's what keeps gear companies in business.  [redface]


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Clear line that big a difference even over the moss green lines? Interesting. Made my notes and stuck in wallet. Thanks guys!
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Fishstick.....Loco Pescado and I fished side by side deadsticking....he had clear line and I did not.......he spanked me.......

I think they make different color lines to make it easier for the fisherman to see; not the fish.

Just my opinion....there are tons of colors out there.

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I have had the same guests in my boat recently for several trips, they all used clear mono, I had braid, they caught more than I did every trip using the same lures (no bait), I started using a 3' clear leader on my braid and presto I was catching more than they did, I do honestly believe YES it does make a difference, the clear- white or green Big Game works great.


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Clear Fluorescent P-Line in 15# is best I have ever found. It is on all my top water and sassy rods. It is a little expensive, but so is fishing. I never let my wife know what the fish cost per pound from the lake.
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I use fluorocarbon line on for most all fishing except top waters. Little more expensive than mono and you have to be careful with the knots (moisten, moisten, moisten) but it is quite a bit more sensitive than mono and about invisible in the water. Usually 15lb. test. 12 on crankbaits.  12 or 15 lb. mono on topwaters. Bass Pro Offshore Angler tight line. Good tough line and reasonably priced. Also use Ande pink and have had no issues with the fish seeing it.
Also use fluro for leader on braid. Its way sensitive but I'm not crazy about another knot in the line.
Just use the same rods I use for bass fishing. Any good graphite rod will work fine. Just personal preference between M or MH action.
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has anyone tried the Cajun red line? It is supposed to look clear to the fish in the water. I started using it and seem to do worse than before using clear.
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I took a color chart on a submarine ride once and red turned black at 15'. I always use clear. At 30' almost every color was black, except chartreus and it got brighter at depth even at 150' down.
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I use 7' 12-20lb Seekers matched to Avet SXJ lever drag reels loaded with 30lb Diawa metered boat braid. 6' of 20lb florocarbon.

This pic shows the old white braid. I really like braid for deadsticking since it allows even the most barely perceptible bites to be felt.

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has anyone tried the Cajun red line? It is supposed to look clear to the fish in the water. I started using it and seem to do worse than before using clear.


Mike, Loco Pescado and I fished side by side a few years ago.

I had Cajun Red and he had clear line.

He spanked me good.

I didn't catch a fish until he loaned me one of his rods.

It is interesting how the fish aren't supposed to see it.....however, red hooks, lures with red, etc. work well.

But, yeah, I feel your pain.  I no longer use any line but clear.

On my open face spinning gear, I use braid with clear fluorocarbon leader.

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My main partner fishing now loaned his rod out and did not get it back so he replaced it and was given a spool of the red Cajun line in 20#, he is a very good fisherman with cat like reflexes, he does excellent with it and does not use a clear leader, but he would catch fish using hay baler string too. For me I totally agree, clear or the green I use makes a difference. I do know when I started using a clear leader on my braid my catchin sure went up. A very good informative post here.
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Appreciate it Ax and Larry. I am going back to clear.
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For spinning reels I love all the shimano reels. They have the active line management system that will reduce line twist and they also have a lip on the spool that is angle out towards the end of the rod instead of perpendicular like every other reel. Those two proprietary characteristics make it stand above every competitor.

Going to try one of the new Duckett micro spin spinning rods with Microwave Line Control eyes.  
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For most applications I use an Abu Garcia C3 6500.  I prefer it over the 5500 because it has a spool clicker on it which comes in handy for trolling and downrigging.  I pair them with a 6'6" or 7' MH BP Graphite Series Trigger rod ($40).  Just respooled them using cheap 20' mono for backer and 20' Seaguar fluoro for the remainder.

For downrigging I like using a line counter reel.  I have both Daiwa Accudepth and Okuma Stratamaster using the same rods.  I spooled them with 20' mono backer, 30' braid and 20' fluoro leader.

For casting in topwater or along riprap I've always just used my regular bass rods and reels but I just bought a couple of BP Johnny Morris Carbonlite rod/reel combos.  One M and one MH.  Can't wait to use them.  They have good reviews.

Edit: I meant to put the # sign for the line weight not the ' sign but most of you probably figured that out.

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I also use the Garcia C3 6500 as each time the line crosses the spool, it is 10', so much easier to get the line to 25' or 30'. I use clear Big Game 20# main line for bait fishing and 15# clear fluorescent  P-Line for leader. I put a piece of 3/8th vacuum hose on first, then a 2 oz. sinker, swivel, then the leader. For slabbing and sassy fishing, I use the Bionic Blade 6 1/2' med-action rod and the 15# P-Line described above.
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pancho, is the vacuum hose to protect your rod eye? I may try that when I take a certain friend out again. He gets so excited he reel up to the swivel everytime.
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Yesterday I got to really try my new rod & reel out with the large number of fish caught, I got a TFO 7' Hvy action and a Lew's BB1 reel, it is very nice, I spooled it with 20 lb Big Game. My 1st ever of a combo like this, it is very nice.
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Yes, I use the vacuum hose to keep the sinker from breaking out the rod eye. Many of my former customers like to reel the sinker into the rod eye and this kept me from having to replace the eye each day.
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I have done the same thing on boat rods for guests, I never thought of rubber tubing, I used a plastic rigging bead.
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I'm gonna put some of that tubing on my rods.....specifically when I take my family out live bait fishing.  They can't seem to understand that you don't reel the line all the way in until they slam the egg weight into the rod tip......[smile]
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Just to add on the rod tips, I had guests awhile back keep reeling jig heads into the tips one time and after getting them stuck 2 time broke one, a quick fix after thought and no rigging beads onboard was cutting the spare button off my shirt and putting the line through it, it works great in a time of need.
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