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Bill Fincher

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I heard they were catching stripers in the Wasita River can anybody confirm
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Washita goes all the way to Black Kettle Grasslands Bill. Maybe more specific?
Stripes have been as far north as Pauls Valley.
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I heard around Mannsville, Okla.  It seems late to me but maybe I am just rushing it
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Probably right.
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Those fish need to be off limit during spawning season. We are one of a hand full lakes they do spawn in. Can't imagine what would happen if we had to start buying our stocking fish.
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Have to agree with Bandit. Leave those spawning fish to do their thing. Plenty of fish in the main lake to catch. I see no reason to catch and keep those females full of eggs. This time of year if you want to keep and est fish then keep the unders. We all have a duty to protect our resource.
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As someone who grew up on the Washita River and remembers when the stripers were first brought in, I would be fine if there were fewer. In the 70s there were amazing sand bass runs on the Washita, after the stripers were introduced they dissapeared. There has been some rebound, but nothing like those days of the past.

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I agree with Bandit and Joe . I am a big advocate of catch and release of female fish during spawn (I RELEASE ALMOST ALL FISH ALL THE TIME). Closing both river arms during the spawning season would be great .Why people want to eat those big fish anyway is beyond me . 
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people eat those big fish because many (?most) want to kill all the fish they catch either for a picture or to eat. if they can't eat all the meat they use the excuse they can give to family and friends. i suspect a lot gets thrown out. fishing everywhere is getting worse compared to previous years. i am mostly a saltwater guy i fished the keys from 2001 to 2015. every year was worse. i know guides that are now doing "dolphin tours" because of how hard it is to catch em now. i moved my operation to venice louisiana and watch massive numbers of tuna redfish etc come to the dock daily. in 2005 the average tuna was much larger than the 60 -80 lb avg fish they catch today. 25 years ago the average was 150lbs I'm told. we are definitely overfishing our oceans both commercially and recreational anglers as well. maybe the same is happening in the lakes... I'm not sure. i do know that in the 80s and 90s i almost always caught really big stripper in texoma (but dont fish it much) and now its hit or miss even for the smaller fish. I'm on my soap box a little but if we dont start saving some fish for the future generations there won't be any fishing. especially in the oceans. my two cents. 
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Geez I wasn't trying to stir up a holier than thou firestorm, I was just trying to figure out when they would be returning to the lake
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Welcome to the demise of a great site Bill. You did nothing wrong. It was a legitimate question. Unless you have a net in the river, I seriously doubt river fishermen are going to affect Texomas population of stripers. I'd be more concerned with someone hammering big fish in summertime stress conditions
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I just read that a 4 year old striper female produces 850,000 eggs and a 12 year old produces 4.5 million eggs
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I guess one Ax's age will produce a bazillion eggs?
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I would like to hear/read some good reports! I fished in front of Washita point all Sunday morningwith slabs sassy shad, and other softbaits. Not a single hit in 3 hoursmoving around all types of anchored up group boats! Saw lots of fish on Lowrance and flasher! Is water too stained ? Why no hits? Yes, I know the one “FISH ARE NOT BITING”. Ha. I know my presentation has worked ok in past years! Pretty stumped!
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Last year at this time we were catching lots of small fish North of Islands. Not the same this year. Seems to be a few weeks behind normal patterns to me. COMMENTS PLEASE-
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I caught 2 twenty pound stripers in February 1994 on the same day while fishing with Guide Duck Risner.
We mounted the second one caught near Colbert Boat club with White road runner and pearl tail in15-18 feet water. Ever time iI look at the mount, I wish I had turned the fish back! I will never keep a big old healthy fish again.
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Kahuna,
A female striper Ax's age could re-populate the lake if she could find enough males to fertilize the eggs.[biggrin]
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She could repopulate the ocean.
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I use to fish with some real old geezers that fished the great pond in the 70's and early 80's.  It was incredible fishing that I know we will never see again unless some serious rules are implemented.  No joke, on a average outing they would limit out on strippers that the average weight was 20 LBS and showed me the pictures.  Texoma Striper lake record 35.12 LBS and caught in 1984.  You will never see that again unless we change.  I do agree with the female spawning populating the lake and we should let them do their thing.  Over half the eggs never make it past the first year due to mother nature normal circle of life process.  I love to fish and I'm the first one to throw a trophy back, pictures only and I will be the first one to support any rule change to bring the real big ones back.  I agree we will always have the numbers but I strongly doubt the size of yester year. 
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I think the flood has done more to run off the big striper than anything else.

I sympathize with post that supports lower populations of Striper in lieu of higher populations of sand bass. I think the striper get so big they consume large amounts of other fish and even their own. Would rather have a lot more sandbass, crappie, and green carp.

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Lots go down the river, and the poachers take them by the carload.
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Best thread I've seen in a long time. My opinion though is like a few others. The floods and drag' n them off the bottom in the summer hurts more than a few boatless hillbillys river fish'n
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Yes, the Stripers have really hurt the native fishing population. Ah yes, I remember the 60's when you could rent a 14 foot Lone Star at High Port at 5pm and buy a couple dozen minnows at the gas dock and have you a mess of sandies from Sand Bass Pass, by 8:00. The days where you could go to Grand Pappy or the dam and fish all night for Crappie from the fishing barges. The days when you could buy live Crawdads from Heatley Brothers or any of the Bait Houses in Pottsboro and could anchor out and catch you some blues or channels.  The days when Jet Skies weren't running through a bunch of surfacing Sandies, that you were trying to catch two at a time with your Zebco and a Golley Whopper or the days when you could follow ole Max Eggleston out to Wood Island to see what he was using to land some 5 Lb large mouth. The days when ole Sammy Brown would pull along side and you were proud to show him your licence, your catch and you were not over the limit or under sized. Yep, I remember when they put High breds in the lake then those Stripers that have eaten a ton or two of the fun fish. I realize that the guides are making a living taking those Big City Boys out for their chance for their wall hanger, but I miss the good ole days when the Idle time was the largest boat on the lake and it stayed tied up to the dock most of the time. Yes, the Lake has changed and so has the Fishing! I now burn more gas and catch fewer fish, but still enjoy being out there and the beauty of the changing seasons. Yall keep a tight line. The Stripers aren't going away, and nither are us Old Geezers. We have just had to change our tackle, lures, boats, bait, and our ways of thinking, but we still have our good old memories.
By the way, the Crappie run in the the Big Mineral creek at Haggerman is pretty good, just smaller and not as many as the years past and it is hard to find a place where you are not elbow to elbow.  
  

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Hello Jim:

Well said! I wish we could bring back the native fish and if not, the stripers in trophy fighting size and to release for another day.  I remember when there was no limit on sandies!  You could go out in the middle of the lake in mid summer before dusk and watch a surface area of several acres rise to the top and hold!  No one busted them, no jet ski, boat, guide, no one, everyone respected each other and you just sit back and reeled them in.  We only kept what our green (metal) Coleman cooler could hold.  We would swap out a beer to make room for a fish (LOL).  I think if we put a slot limit on stripers, banned live bait to reduce fish swallowing hooks and killing them plus pounding them on the bottom, we might get big ones back?  Agree, its a great lake and the numbers will stand.
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I fished for 2 week on less than 5.00 of gas. I don't kill big fish, or fish on the weekends, or in sight of another boat.
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Dragging the bottom with 10 lures on one line just to make sure your clients catch some good sized strippers should be banned.  25 years ago it was not unusual to catch 20 lb fish in schools.  20 lb fish schooling is a site to see its self.  I have had them splash water in my boat.  Something has changed.  No they did not all go out the dam.  
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Some people can't physical throw a cast net or chunck lures hours at a time. They are days thats all i can do. Dragging those rigs have no more devastation on the fish than any other way of fishing. It's all about common sense and respect for others.
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I like the fun of catching a fish on lighter equipment and a single lure, like trolling a thunderstick or two. If going for a bucket of meat, I would use a sea rod and a large umbrella rig.
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I live near and mostly fish Lake Thunderbird (east of Norman, OK.).  We sure don't have to worry about too many small stripers here.  Sigh.
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Good Stuff!!!
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Wth difference does it matter what you're dragging? You can only keep 10 each.
If you are in big fish in summertime, move on. Stress probably kills more than a fillet knife.
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Wth difference does it matter what you're dragging? You can only keep 10 each.
If you are in big fish in summertime, move on. Stress probably kills more than a fillet knife.
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The Wise One Has Spoken. I agree!! Having the chance to get out amongst them is a privilege that all should enjoy if they want. Be it in a fancy boat, with a guide, a kayak, a dingy, from the bank or up the river. It's everyone's right as long as they do it with in the law. We have two state wildlife conservation departments protecting these fish. They know what's best. I say let's trust in them to do there job and just enjoy what's out there.
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I enjoy all the comments and would like the no minimum length limit changed.  I think we would see more thrown back, less live bait fishing and relieve stress on the fish.  Lake Texoma is the only lake in Texas with no minimum length limit on Striper/Hybrid fish.  I think the numbers would improve and maybe move to larger stripers as well in the long run. 
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Start limiting the guides if you want bigger fish.
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I believe in free enterprise of business staying within the rules.  If fishing guides can run a business with a slot limit or a minimum length limit set, I'm good with it and I still think it would improve the overall strength of fishing with such rule changes.  I fish several lakes in Texas and Oklahoma and without question Texoma has the most visible fishing guides.  There are two ways to look at that number as well, great fishing and/or great easy fishing.  The old saying "We call it fishing and hunting not catching and killing".  I hope everyone had a chance to enjoy the big pond this weekend.
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I still think better control over the lake level and flooding the dam, and limiting commercial fishing would improve fish quality. 
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