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SunCatcher3Toon

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Went today with My Little Lady and met my cousin at BC and went out in his Bay Blazer, (Thanks BlackBeard That Boat Is BadToTheBone) Went out and fished the river channel down river of Willis Bridge and went up into Big Mineral. Got all our overs and had to throw a bunch back. We had a little trouble with the box variety but we did manage to move around and pick up about a dozen between the three of us. Bubble Gum & White Flukes did it.

I heard a guide talking at the cleaning dock about how they're thinking about raising the under limit up to 23" ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Has anyone else heard this or is it BS

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A guide remarks BS ? Why I never.
Axman, maybe!
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Glad you found em. Thanks for the report!
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Hey Suncatcher, great job. My buddy Joeslab has a Blazer Bay and it is awesome. Rough water no longer a problem. Went with him Sat. and had opposite problem from you. Caught box fish and only one over. Love the deadsticking. I'm finally getting the hang of it. Our best color was smokin' shad on white 1 oz. head.
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Striper Fishing:

If I had a vote, no live bait fishing or trolling down riggers allowed.  Minimum length 22 inches with a maximum daily limit of 5 fish only.  Today, we can catch a 10 fish limit with our eyes closed and who cares about limiting out on 15 inch to 19 inch fish. Sure you get your two over 20 inches, big deal.

The purpose of the no live bait, hard to have 15 people in a boat fishing and limiting out on 12 inch fish or smaller fish.  Do the math, that's 150 fish and if the guide goes twice a day, 300 fish.  It's a dent in the fish population and I know for a fact limit size allowed in numbers and length works.  Look at lake Cedar Creek, trophy Hybrids but stiff rules.  I've gone out a caught a 5 fish limit with average weight of 10 LBS before!

No down riggers, tired of people being jerks and screwing up everyone else's day, driving through your area with no sense of courtesy or respect for others.  I have no data on the effect of fish limits, size but since I'm asking for the stars might as well throw it in there and get rid of the idiots.

The guides will not like it but I know several guides that fish only artificial and will welcome the change and the challenge because that is the type of customers they want. 

Lake Texoma can handle trophy stripers, it has the natural zoology to do so.  We should accommodate mother nature and help her thrive so a trophy striper is something we can at least look forward to not something of the past.  The lake record for a striper was caught in 1984, 35 LBS.  34 years ago.
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My little granddaughter who only uses live bait because she is too young to cast a lure is glad you don't have a vote.  Thank you very much.
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Bad shoulders appreciate the bait fishing and trolling. Lol
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Kahuna,

I don't know why you want to be so mean to poor old Ax. He's just like everybody else, he ain't all bad. Speaking of Ax, where is he today? Is he being snobby again?

JimW,

Thanks Buddy I'm gonna try and get down there more, good luck when you get to go

Gman,

I'll tell ya bud I love deadsticking too, and it's the Little Woman's favorite kind of fishing. I found out I was a little rusty. You have to be REALLY quick at the slightest tap and I missed A LOT of fish or we would've prolly done better

Pokes,

๐Ÿค” Ah, I guess we just have to trust the Okla & Tx wildlife and fisheries depts to do what's best. They're doing alright I think. As far as types of fishing methods, I believe if it's legal anyone should be able to fish how ever they want. I personally don't get bothered as much by people trolling as I do people coming off plane right in the middle of working birds I'm on. But in either case I just think, oh well this ain't my lake.

Terrance,

Ya Buddy, I have a 5 yo grand daughter & a 2 yo grandson that I wanna start pretty soon and don't figure they'll just jump in the boat and start chunking Sassys & Cohos lol

KerrDog,

I hear ya about the bad shoulder. I've got one. I love to top water fish but I've always got to get out the BenGay the next day

Thanks for the replies guys, I'd like to see more going on on this forum like it used to be, Tight Lines
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All of my children grew up fishing Lake Texoma and never once did I allow them to use live bait or troll and they caught tons of stripers and had a blast  Save me the story of oh my shoulder!  If you have a bad shoulder, which I do! How do you reel in the fish if your trolling?  Boats busting in on a plane or guides/people busting your spot.  Like an idiot did earlier this year, pulled in and stopped between me and my lure I just casted.   If I can't get to them they will be given a strong language lesson and it's all spelled with four letter words.

We always complain on the size of stripers and we should.  I go to Arkansas and it's common to catch a 30 LB striper and people there cannot believe how small stripers are in Texoma.  I went below Beavers dam one year to fish for trout.  People told me if you catch one of those monster stripers, get rid of it they destroy the trout fishing.  30 to 40 LB stripers sit below Beavers dam!

With some simply management changes on rules per limits, size this lake really could be a trophy striper lake.  The guides would be able to charge more, you bring higher cost value customers who are willing to pay more for lodging/food etc. which is an economic impact on the area.  With strict rules the serious fisherman and solid guides would be the only ones left standing and yes your young kids would still be catching the daylights out of stripers.  Your sunny day customer fishing with guide on a corporate outing want to brag they caught their limit, not that they had to work half a day and catch only 4 fish that averaged 29 LBS but short of a limit.  Only a serious fisherman that appreciates it would brag on a catch like that, I would.
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I hope I don't get cranky when I get old!
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It's not as much the reeling in. It's the casting for long periods of time. They are all trophies to me. The big ones don't eat good anyway. If I didn't eat them I wouldn't fish or hunt. I like the fishing reports better than the debates. IMO
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Me too KerrDog,
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Next month will be my 25th anniversary of doing this and I can tell you nothing will ever change. Because our fish reproduce we actually have to harvest them or they would eat the lake out of house and home the Arkansas lakes are deeper and colder and stocked they do not reproduce so there is less fish so they get bigger but you catch a lot less fish. The one beautiful thing about this lake is you almost always catch fish on those lakes you do not always catch fish. I do wish others were more courteous and I try to leave by example but also make mistakes just like everybody else. Anytime stuff like that happens I always try to leave and I usually do but every now and then Iโ€™ll become an idiot like everybody else. It sure feels like at times itโ€™s a narcissistic world but Iโ€™m just trying to survive in it :-)
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Very well explained by a pro. Makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you.
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thanks Chris that is so true and I agree with everything you said
just wish I could fish more often
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SunCatcher3Toon

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Thanks Chris ๐Ÿ‘
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Pokes89

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It is a good point and well taken.  I've been on this lake for 30 years and seen better which is probably the reason for my mental status which misses the better days.  I believe the lake could be much better and without much effort in terms of rules.  Which explains why I'm so cranky. But like the song says, "Let it Go".  I'm off to play golf.
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