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Jerry "JD" Dorsey

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I guess everyone who gets on here, knows how I fish these days.  Let me go back some 22 years ago, when I first came to Lake Texoma.   I met RJ Smithey, and his bunch at Willis Oklahoma, and was told how to catch live bait, and how to use them.  I used a little ice chest with a air bubbler, fixed all my rods like the guides did, and going to catch some stripers.   Me and my fellow fisherman, got up at 4am, and headed to the docks around Buncombe Creek.   Yes we had had a couple cool ones earlier, traveling in from OKC and sleeping in the park, ready to catch us some stripers.   We knew that the shad were easier to get right before sunup, so we got out one cast net, and slipped out into the dark to get some live shad.   We had a disagreement who would throw, as we had practiced for weeks to get the net to open..  The first cast by my fellow fisherman, acting as a guide, was open, and in the right spot for sure.  Only thing he forgot to tie it on his wrist.   When he jumped down to grab it, he went over the front of the boat with it!   Lost the net, not to mention the embarrasement, since the real bait getters the real guides, were watching this, having the laugh of their lives.   Both he and I continued to fish, although I became a real guide, I think, and went on since then fishing for a living.   I am now 73, with a torn rotator cuff, lost God knows how many nets to whatever is down there; running God knows where to find bait, and lots of times losing it, it dying for some unknown reason.   Getting up at 3 am, filling a bait tank, getting bait, stinking up my boat with the mess, cleaning out my bait tank, spending God know how much on methods to keep it alive....Geez.   Thats the Madness..... And certainly now you do not have to listen to me, as I dont pretend to have all the answers.   Years ago, I used the umbrellas rig, and caught fish, too easy, and not fishing!    They say you get wiser with age...Ok the Method (for me)
Get up at 4, earlier riser anyway.  Drink some coffee.   Kiss my dear wife goodbye, take my time down to the slip, customers will be there at 6.   Drink some more coffee, tie on an umbrella rig, two rods.  Turn up the radio, check facebook, check emails, clean up a little around there to kill time.   Customers show up and we are off.   My point is, and I know some do not like to use this method, but for those like me, older, decreped, lots of ailments, this is heaven.  I wish someone would have shown me this way back then.   Call it not fishing if you want, call it not being able to cast, call it what you want, but if it works for you like it does for me, try it.   I dont get anything for sharing this, but if someone mentions to me they cant find bait, looked for ever, try just pulling it out of your locker, tie it on, nine jigs...or one....its fun.    No brainer.   Or dont, call it not fishing, and do what you want, I am just trying to help those who might want to know, something that is easier.....If you like what you are doing, this message with decenigrate in 2 seconds..... If you just like to fish and dont know what to do, for Gods sake, get a guide regardless of how he fishes, and let him bust his butt, its cheaper and faster.....Whatever,  Good Fishing, for everyone..... And I hope I did not offend anyone....JD

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I'm not really sure if your talking about trolling or not.But if you are I do use that tactic in the warmer months and have a ball doing it ,but im really new to this cold weather fishing and not to sure how to go about it. I guess what im getting at is does the trolling method work in the colder water temps or is it something I could try.i believe me and a fellow fisherman are going to try our luck today and see if the fish gods might smile on us.if anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated.thanks
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I have cast the a rig but not trolled with it yet. I haven't heard of anyone trolling in the cold, I don't know
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I have cast the a rig but not trolled with it yet. I haven't heard of anyone trolling in the cold, I don't know
[smile] he just told you ! [smile]
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Can you explain to is how you troll the rigs in cold weather? Downrigger, heavy weight etc? Structure , open water etc? I have rigs just don't use them a lot.
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Today hit the ledges.   It was cold, but not that cold, had 7 fish 9 to 15 017.JPG     014.JPG  016.JPG  pounds, all catch and release.
I run them at 3 mph, from 60 to 90 feet back, and in the evening.   White and chartreuse, mack rigs.
straight out the back, nothing extra other than rig...
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Thanks for the "tip" JD, I have heard a few fellas also mention the "umbrella rigs" and will have to try them out. Never hurts to have a few different kinds of "ammo" when fish'n.
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Jerry, I enjoy your articles and thank you for taking time to write them. You inspire older fishermen ( like me ) to get out and catch dinner. Charles
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Very similar to this is what I do on Tawakoni with a fluke and teaser above it, sometimes it sure will trigger a bite when all else fails, same speed and everything, we have been doing this up to the latest cold spell and will resume next week. It works. I have never fished a C rig type of bait. .3mph seems to be the magic speed.
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Well if you're referring to my post. I need bait for blue cats, last i heard its pretty tough to catch em on lures.
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You don't necessarily need shad for jugs. My last trip I put out 7 jugs with shad and 6 jugs with "little smoky" sausages. The little smoky jugs caught more and bigger fish than the shad.
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Thanks for all your posts, Jerry.  You do catch the fish.  I just wish you didn't tie your own horseheads.  [smile]

I never really thought about trolling in water this cold.  Learn something every day!!


Best bait for blues is exactly what Pancho said.

Last trip, Loco brought some "shad" balls he bought.  All our fish came on lil smokies.  We had no shad balls left on the hooks and no fish off them.

The lil smokies won't dissolve and fall off like the shad balls do.  Plus, once the shad balls get saturated, I think the kitties can suck it off the hook without biting.



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My son loves to troll, he has autism and I let him "drive" the boat on my favorite routes, not sure which he likes more trolling or driving [smile]
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My son loves to troll, he has autism and I let him "drive" the boat on my favorite routes, not sure which he likes more trolling or driving [smile]
How old is he? 14 year old grandaughter is wearing my new Polaris Ranger slick!

BTW Ax, those must have been tiny hooks for shad balls?
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Well got to see Sandra yesterday at the Sherman VA.   What a delight, I must say...  I am now headed to the Dallas VA Hospital to see when they schedule the left knee replacement surgery.....I hope it is before I get real busy fishing.....  Looks like this weekend might turn off nice.... God bless ya.....[smile]
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