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I heard a couple of fishermen talking the other day at the Mobil station and they were lamenting about all the stripers having gone over the dam and it would take 2 to 3 years for it to "get back like it was".

I thought about that as I munched on my cheeseburger......and fries......

I personally find it hard to believe that ALL of the stripers in a 100,000 acre lake went over the dam.

Yeah, I agree we lost quite a few and there is no denying that.  But I'm an optimist!

My thought is that the stripers running around the lake are simply stuffed!

You can go almost anywhere on the lake and throw a cast net and have a tank full in a short time.

The stripers that I caught (by a stroke of luck) several weeks ago were spitting shad out of their mouths when I boated them.  Just like sand bass do.  I believe that if a fish has a chance at an easy meal, he's gonna take it.

But right now, finding fish hungry enough to chase a bait is hard to do.  Sand bass have slowed down in the last few weeks (at least for me).  Does that mean we've caught 'em all....?  I don't think so.  The amount of bait all over the place is astounding.  I think the fish are full.

Anyway, that's my thought.....and yes...every once in a while, I have one.  [smile]

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I have always read that stripers go into the current. So I believe more of the fish went up both rivers than over the dam. 

Probably some good fishing up river in some of the holes.

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For 20 years I fished Lake Powell in Utah for Stripers.  In the years of shad overabundance the striped bass fishing was tough.  They were full and hard to catch. For the past 5 years I have been fishing Texoma, and it has been great!  Not an overabundance of shad, more of a good balance.  Maybe a lot of fish went over the dam, but I am a little suspect of that theory.  Probably more went up stream.  My gut tells me that there are a lot of fish still in the lake, hiding under schools of shad, snacking when they feel like it, and only moving when the shad move.  If there is a cold water winter, possibly there will be a die-off of shad.  We will see.  Otherwise, we will have to work harder for our fish.  Either way, my group will be back on this great lake next March!  Happy Holidays, and Merry Christmas!
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I did well off the bank again this weekend, but all were pretty small. Ton of fun though must of caught 25 over Saturday and Sunday. Mostly bass in the morning, with some sand bass and striper mixed in. Every weekend they get bigger. Had about 4 that could of made the frying pan. From what I can tell there was some brush that had collected from the flood on the end of a sand drop off and the fish were holding tight to that structure. It was all soft and bushy as there were no hangups but a lot of small sticks picked up. I suspect there is a lot of new brush around the lake from the flood that the fish are holding tight to if there is shad around.

I've been using these small 2-3 inch bobby garland cracker (chrome speckled) plastic jigs that are a great match for a lot of the small bait running around. Just a great multispecies lure that will catch anything from perch to striper. Had two guide boats around picking off some small ones. This was on east side of lake.
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I hope you are right Ax.  I can't fathom a total loss over the dam either.
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Skiatook lake is a wonderful hybrid lake just north of Tulsa.  Every year the hybrids completely shut down in that lake from July-September.  At least as of a week or two ago no one was catching any hybrids yet and NO water went over that dam.  It went from 17 feet below back up to normal.  The fishing was fantastic in May and June.  I think the story has been the same for other hybrid and striper lakes.  So I am like Ax, I am staying optimistic.  I think the stripers are still there but I attribute the slow fishing to the fact that the lake still hasn't turned over (or it hadn't when I was there last week).
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I also agree.  I was fishing the lake this summer at the height of the flood, just after the water had stopped going over the spillway.  It seemed to only be a few of us amateurs and a lot of guides, and the guides appeared to be doing fine in June/early July before they all retreated behind the damn for the huge fish hiding behind the rock piles.  I routinely saw them pulling in quite a few stripers in short periods of time, and was even able to grab a few myself, though I think I've forgotten what one looks like after the last couple of months.
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finally someone spoke up.  I think it is ridiculous to say that all of the stripers went over the spillway, but the catfish, sandbass, LMB, etc. did not.  It was also posted that the striper would starve to death in the river.  Why would that be?  There is a population of striper in the river all of the time.  There have been numerous 30 lbers caught over the past several years.  They definitely were not starving.  I have fished the river out of an air boat several times and we caught alot of striper and none were poor or starving.  Once they get past the dam thay can go all the way to the gulf if they want in search of food.  Plus why would they starve and not all of the other fish in the river?
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I really hope you're right. But the # of boats fishing the river and # of fish they're hauling out is far more then 2007. This has been going on daily for months. The stripers have plenty to eat below the dam and are healthy. Can't wait until the Fisheries does their net sampling after the first of the year. That report will tell us a lot.
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I believe dead sticking will tell the tale. I fish all year and dead sticking the winter is one of my favorite ways to fish. You also have the help of the birds. Stripers will congregate in big schools in the cold water and generally are easier to find. The abundance of shad I'm sure is a factor, now that things are starting to cool off I look forward to November. But, I really enjoy December thru February. We might find some monsters in February. Guess we'll see! I think a 30 pound striper could be a real possibility! Call me crazy
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Im with Ax. Prolly a decent amount went over as seen by what was caught but the shad had one heck of an opportunity to grow with all that new water in the trees where they were protected. Those fish don't want our fancy baits or perfectly presented offerings as they are fat dumb and happy after a great spawn up river... hopefully[wink]
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I live by a pond with a small concrete spillway.  After a good rain/flood, my son and I will walk down to the spillway and watch small perch and bass swim UP the spillway (from the creek below) against a heavy current and back into the pond.  Mind you, it's not a 1B gallon per second flow of water but it's also 3-4 inch fish swimming against an extremely fast flow of water.  A strong healthy striper (or any fish for that matter) is not going to simply get washed over a dam.  People also say they like to fish the windy banks as the waves "push" the baitfish against the shore....same principal.  Yes, windy banks do tend to concentrate the baitfish but it's NOT because of strong waves actually pushing the minnows around.  It's because the wind will blow oxygen and plankton and other free floating particles which the smaller fish  eat.  And waves break up the light rays entering the water which can't hurt.  I also own a big aquarium with a pump that puts out a fairly strong current and have watched my smallest neon tetras swim in and out of the current with ease.  Like trout in a fast flowing river, they know exactly how to sit just outside the edge of the fastest current. Point being, a big striper who "accidentally" swims close enough to the outflow/current of water over (and through) the Texoma dam is going to be able to sense that pressure and will simply head in a different direction.  

Now, all that said, I'm only talking about a relatively healthy striper and can't speak for the stripers who gorged themselves over the summer on Lil' Smokies. 
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Yeah, maybe they are fulla lil smokies.  Seriously something's been stealing my lil smokies and it ain't catfish.  I have pulled in quite a few hooks with partial lil smokies on 'em and they had little teeth marks.  [smile]
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Gold Eyes? When I tried your Lil Smokies the other day, I caught several of them.
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Gold Eyes? When I tried your Lil Smokies the other day, I caught several of them.


Could be!!!  When the kitty fish bit them, they were on....but those other little critters wouldn't commit.  [smile]

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Hey times are tuff. Lil Smokies soaked in lake water then griller aren't bad.[smile]
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I can't help but think this unseasonably warmer weather has alot to do with it right now. The fish may have made a run for the river. I'm thinking if we can get a stretch of cooler weather, it will turn back on. 

My guess is once deadsticking weather sets in, we'll see some really fat fish too. 
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just spoke to a guide, and what he says jibes with something I read on here before.  The debris in the lake from the flood is decaying, this is dropping the oxygen content dramatically.  This impacts the striper a lot.  
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decaying debris sounds good.  I caught a 7 pound stump the other day.  Landed it safely in my new Frabill that hasn't seen much action.  I dropped it back in for others to snag and enjoy  [smile]
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.  I have pulled in quite a few hooks with partial lil smokies on 'em and they had little teeth marks.  [smile]
its them fish brought in from south they call them phrianas i'm  sure it will get quite interesting later when folks launch their boat when they get a little bigger
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Never thought about piranhas!!  If you can fry 'em, I'll keep 'em.  [smile]


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