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SunCatcher3Toon

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How much weight is enough? I've usually used 16 oz bank weights. Is that enough? Does it kind of depend on where you set them, wind, boat traffic?
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1 lb??
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I was afraid that wasn't enough. So your saying I don't need that much?

I would think the wind would blow them away
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What are you using them on, rod and reel?? You said bank weights.
If you're jug lining, I make mine by pouring concrete in 20 oz solo cups. With wire loop stuck in before they set up.
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Jug Lines. I've heard of people doing the cement cup weights. I could do that

I really haven't had much trouble with them floating off. I've found them a hundred yards or so out of line when I had a big one on.

But, I think I need more weight because according to my calculations a 20 oz cup of concrete weighs 3.133 lbs (depending on the density of the concrete) plus the weight of the cup and the wire. But of course I'm no Inganeir 😜

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Oh, should I use a stainless wire clip?
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Just an observation from an old Lake Superior fisherman who will do Texoma with a guide this spring/summer. Concrete is a very poor weight per density since it takes a lot more weight of concrete than steel or lead or tungsten. You're probably as well off with you sinkers you're using now as the concrete ones and more compact and I would think easier to handle. The cup of concrete with a loop is a great idea if it works but you're using almost 3 times the weight of your compact lead sinker to do the same thing. YMMV

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Nick, ex Great Lakes Charter Captain. I use them for jug lines.
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So, which is heavier?  A pound of lead or a pound of feathers.  Can't we all just go fishing?
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So, which is heavier?  A pound of lead or a pound of feathers.  Can't we all just go fishing?


It depends Terrance, whether the feathers are ruffled or not

But I'm going to definitely Make some of those cup weights next time I'm setting corner posts

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I bought some 1lb. rubber coated lead dumbbells at Academy for 1.00 ea. You could also cut them in half an drill a hole.
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🤔 there's a good idea too

I have a gallon can of rubber roof coating that I had left over from re doing my camper roof that I was thinking of dipping the cement weights in so they wouldn't dent up my pontoons

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Just tie some rocks on if you are real cheap. And use a old bleach bottle.
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And what is wrong with Bleach Bottles? They have to go somewhere when they're empty. I'm guessing you use empty Grey Poupon jars 🤔
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Big fish and boat props get their share anyway.
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What ever works 👍
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Depends on the density of the concrete.
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And the angle of the dangle!
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I would use enough weight to control the drift, and keep the main line straight, the float should tire the fish. $1.00 for a 1lb dumbbell that you could cut in half is a great deal. So is a 5.00 bag of quickset.
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Depends on the density of the concrete.


You bring up a good point Ax. I know you are a very experienced & capable lure maker and fisherman but you probably don't know a lot about concrete, so let me 'splain it to ya.😉

The most commonly used mix of concrete weighs 2400 kg per cubic meter, or for all you 'Mericans out there, 145 lbs per cubic foot (3915 lbs per cubic yard). Although the unit weight of concrete (density) varies depending on the amount and density of the aggregate, the amount of entrained air (and entrapped air), and the water and cement content, the afore mentioned mix is the most commonly used.

Join us again tomorrow boys & girls when we'll be taking a look at "Predictive Soil Mechancs". Learn ways to predetermine lateral stress in soft clays and other soil types.
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Oh and Kahuna you never answered me about if I need to use stainless wire in the cup weights
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You bring up a good point Ax. I know you are a very experienced & capable lure maker and fisherman but you probably don't know a lot about concrete, so let me 'splain it to ya.😉

The most commonly used mix of concrete weighs 2400 kg per cubic meter, or for all you 'Mericans out there, 145 lbs per cubic foot (3915 lbs per cubic yard). Although the unit weight of concrete (density) varies depending on the amount and density of the aggregate, the amount of entrained air (and entrapped air), and the water and cement content, the afore mentioned mix is the most commonly used.

Join us again tomorrow boys & girls when we'll be taking a look at "Predictive Soil Mechancs". Learn ways to predetermine lateral stress in soft clays and other soil types.


Huh???

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Down south (Lake Lavon) we anchor our jugs with concrete filled 18 ounce drink cups (approx 2 pounds) and eye made from scrap 12 gauge electric wire.  We use flagging jugs with pool noodle float and set with 3 feet of slack. A 20 pound blue can move one a few hundred yards if left overnight and twist off if tangled in brush, but we release anything over 10 pounds so no problem there except chasing down the flagging jugs.
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